I'm opinionated

[seldear]

So shoot me.

Okay, the only reason I can conceive of someone wanting the history of SG-1 at the end of Moebius to be different to the history of SG-1 at the end of Threads is because they want to change the history of SG-1 to their own convenience.

Maybe I'm just short-sighted. But can anyone else see another reason to claim that "things are now different in the 'end of Moebius' universe because of the fish"?

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[ex-aardie509.livejournal.com]

It could be a metaphor for Jack's virility. But that's just sick and twisted and evil .... *grins*

Seriously? I don't know. Maybe it isn't to change anything, but to prove that they were going to end up in the same spot again no matter what? Which I thought would be a positive reinforcement of the Ship?

[havocthecat]

Maybe it isn't to change anything, but to prove that they were going to end up in the same spot again no matter what?

That was something like what I was thinking. :)

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

I honestly think that the one little change--the fish in the pond--shows that no matter how cautious, no matter how tiny, any tampering with history will have a ripping effect.

In this case, the only change was in the fish in the pond because they got freaking lucky...and because there are probably tiny other things that are different that we haven't seen (and probably never will see).

But that's the basic idea to me--time tampering produces alterations. I mean, in the Trek novel The Entropy Effect the image when Spock returned after fixing things--but HE remembered what he'd done and the alternate time lines--was that he hadn't set things back to rights, but rather had roughly mended it back together; that the space/time fabric wasn't undamaged, but rather stitched back together and only just barely.

That's been, for so long, my concept of time travel and time tampering that it didn't faze me.

*shrug* YMMV

[erica-w.livejournal.com]

You stole my answer. *pouts*

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

Hee! I'm sorry.

It's like wiliqueen's husband says, "I'm a Doctor Who fan. I eat temporal paradoxes for breakfast."

Yay for someone else thinking along the same lines!

[erica-w.livejournal.com]

Yay for someone else thinking along the same lines!

LOL, yeah it is good to know I'm not completely wacked. ;o)

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

Errr...isn't "completely whacked" part of the innate definition of "fannish"?

*grin*

[erica-w.livejournal.com]

Naw, that's just "partial". *Completely* would be fanatical.

*g*

[amilyn.livejournal.com]

True...and all of us (sadly enough) know a few or a lot of those.

Erg.

[skydiver119.livejournal.com]

yep. maybe i'm odd, but it seems clear to me what's real and what's now a 'non-event'

if folks really want to insist that our sg1 is long ago dead in egypt and we're currently in a perpetual AU, ok, fine, have fun.

but that's not how i see it...and according to Joe, that's not how TPTB see it

[stargatedragon.livejournal.com]

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... and a fish is just a fish.

trust me, writing a time-travel story is hard enough without dealing with a thousand permutations of said trip - TPTB know darned well that it's easier to just keep it to the fish and not have to try to rewrite thousands of pages of history.

shipper or not, that's a LOT of ret-conning that I just don't see anyone wanting to do - or able to do.

some people just have too much time on their hands to think about these things...

*shrugs*

[riverstar-aura.livejournal.com]

And for that matter, how do we know that there were no fish in Jack's pond to begin with. Yes sure, we've got Teal'c saying there was none but who's to say that Jack didn't tell him to say that?

Yes, I know that this is a highly unlikely probability however, it's just another thought to throw into the loop. :D

[sesaworuban.livejournal.com]

Someone mentioned a Simpsons episode where Homer buggers around with the time-line and when he gets back, everyone has snake tongues and he says something along the lines of "close enough".

While I'm still quite enjoying SG, I wouldn't put it past the writers to mess around with the concept of time travel for a 'Simpsons' quote and a quick laugh.

[seldearslj.livejournal.com]

Apparently the likeness was supposed to be greater. Jack-on-the-tape was supposed to say "donuts are plentiful" and Jack-in-the-office was supposed to say: "what are donuts?"

Thereby emphasising the likeness with said Simpsons episode.

[mitai.livejournal.com]

I live under a rock, so help me out here . . . WHO is having a problem with the fish? Is this some huge kerfluffle that I know nothing about? (likely?)

[seldearslj.livejournal.com]

Someone indicating that the fact that there were now fish meant all of SG-1's history had changed.

[ruralstar.livejournal.com]

Okay, the only reason I can conceive of someone wanting the history of SG-1 at the end of Moebius to be different to the history of SG-1 at the end of Threads is because they want to change the history of SG-1 to their own convenience.

Actually the only reason is that some people have too much time on their flippin hands.

It's the same people, the same characters we've always known. Maybe the fish didn't like Jack until he brought someone there to go Fishing with.

Do you see why I think the fandom freaks are simply that-freaks. *sigh* I'm opnionated too Sel, shoot me first.

Ruralstar